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Why? 

Does your original indicator set not work?

Yuraku

Yuraku wrote:

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Why? 

Does your original indicator set not work?

Yuraku

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 My original set work fine in a dimly lit garage or on a dull overcast day. Theres alot of bright blue sky days here and when ridding into the sun approching round abouts i like to think that the other vehicals can see my indication as easily as possible. The old hand signals work great, but as half way through a corner , braking , useing the clutch , motor cars all aroung you , i like to keep both hands on the handle bars. Its dog eat dog on roundabouts , if they dont see your indication they will shoot out when you have the right of way. its abit of customising my bike i guess. But my main concern is saftey...... Thanks Jarrah , i wil look into that relay. 

You have done the hard bit.

All you need to do now is pop the bullet connectors out up under the mudguard on the rear and behind the headlight at the front 

Brian

Okay so I've had a look...

 

I've found rubber tubes that you suggested where the connectors it looks like this http://i.imgur.com/WT8nhPg.jpg kind of. So I just pull from one end to disconnect them?

 

As for the the other ones I am kind of confused, do I need to take the headlight out? Sorry I'm not the most mechanically minded person, I'm trying to learn though. 

 

See here wires running along the frame of the bike http://i.imgur.com/b5h9oFa.jpg

I have had a search through my photos and these are the best that I can find to show where the bullet connectors are and what the look like. The pics show the RH connectors but it will be easy enough to look the other side for the LH ones 

If you follow the wiring from the indicators they will be the first connectors you find.

 

 

domox wrote:

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  I ordered LED indicators last night before I went to bed so now that I know how to remove the old ones we'll be in business.

 

Thanks again!!

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If you are going to use LED indicators, you will need an LED flasher relay. Without it the indicators will flash too fast.

Here is a link to help with fitment-http://ttr250.activeboard.com/t55543721/flasher-unit/

This is for the LED indicator relay that is needed- http://ttr250.activeboard.com/t55457936/led-indicator-bulb-only-advice-plez/

Enjoy!

Jarrah

Not to step on your toes Brian but if you use the Halogen 3-pin relay pictured in your post above, you will either need to cut the original wiring and fit connectors, or make a special 2 pin plug with two female spade connectors and fit it to the wiring loom and relay. When you try to plug the relay into the wiring harness you will see what I mean as it will not plug in. One of the 3-pins would not be used (unless fitting additional indicators) so it seems pointless to use a 3-pin relay anyway.

If using the 2-pin relay mentioned in the link I left (pictured below), it is plug-and-play. All you would need to do is plug it in and fit the rubber holder to the relay (as fitted standard).

With something like this (pictured below), the only problem would be that the rubber will not fit around the relay to hold it. A bolt or a few cable ties would sort that though-

As you can see from the picture below, the TTR250 uses the same connector block as above, unlike the WR that uses a three pin relay with male spade connectors (as pictured in Brian's post above).

This is the link to the hassle free 2-pin relay (plug-and-play)- http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2007-2012-Honda-CBR-600RR-2-Pin-LED-Flasher-Relay-/261077306262?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cc96b8b96&clk_rvr_id=554188362216

This is the link to the 2-pin relay that will plug into the wiring loom (plug-and-play)but fitment to the bike will need to be improvised - http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/YAMAHA-3-Pin-LED-FLASHER-RELAY-LED-FLASH-RATE-FIX-/360288317139?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item53e2db6ed3

This is for the WR type 3-pin relay that is a HASSLE to fit to the wiring harness without a spare male connector block handy- http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Motorcycle-LED-Indicator-RELAY-3-PIN-WRELED02-/330932813339?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4d0d21fe1b

Jarrah

TTRfan wrote:

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TT-R250M wrote:

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Not to step on your toes Brian

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Your not stepping on my toes Jarrah.

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  That's good to know Brian

The links that I left are only for visual purposes as you should be able to find them cheaper. For example, here is a link to the hassle free LED 2-pin relay- http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Indicator-Relay-2-pin-YAMAHA-R1-R6-KAWASAKI-/300563172197?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item45faf60b65

Here is a good picture of the plug-and-play 2-pin LED relay in the link above (for future reference)-

Fitting the resistors instead of a flasher relay seems like a hassle, but each to their own.

Jarrah

PS. does this thread now has enough info to warrant being a sticky?

 

TTRfan wrote:

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Is it best I delete all reference to the 68251BL? That would seem sensible.

Brian

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 Yes and no Brian. It does work if you have a spare connector block lying around but the wiring schematics is not as per the diagram. As mentioned, one of the 3-pins would not be used (unless fitting additional indicators). In other words, the ''pilot'' pin in the diagram would not be used.

In theory the Yamaha R1 relay will work Brian, the only problem that I can see is that the power feed from the battery may be on the wrong side of the Yamaha R1 plug (not likely). This would be easily overcome by taking the connectors out from the connector block and switching the wires around. To do this- the connector has a release tab down one side of it. Release the tab with the small screwdriver by pushing it down the one side of connector and push the connector out gently. Sometimes all that is needed is just to release the release tab and it comes out without gentle persuasion.

Just a side note for owners with the older 1993~1999 Open Enduro models- these bikes are brought out with a 3-pin relay that needs an earth/ground. They still use the same connector block but have an extra connector that goes to ground. However, by rights you wont have any trouble as the newer 1999~2013 2-pin relay does not need a ground/earth, therefore it will work.

Jarrah

Got the LED bulbs. Think there is 102 tiny LED bulbs in them  ,  (they arnt any brighter ) but i guess i wont have a blown bulb for ten years and the power usage is alot less. Also got a cheap LED flasher on ebay From China. 3 bucks. Bulbs 8 bucks a pair. With the Led Flasher i had to cut and change the connecter plug to fit. Bulbs only just fit into original yamaha indicators , the two phillips head screws had to be removed so i could angle the new Led bulb in. 

Interesting thread this, so thought I might add my 3 penneth to it 

I couldn't find the relay in Jarrah's poat apart from on the Aussie ebay site, but I did find a 2 pin relay that purported to be a replacement for the Yam relay but suitable for LED operation. It didn't work at all 

Plus, it turns out that my relay has 3 PINS so Brian's would have been a good idea to start with.

Having missed Brian's post for some reason though, I bought a 3 pin "flasher relay" with the correct fitting, but which had an extra wire connected with a connector on theend designed to be screwed on somewhere, but I couldn't get that to work either 

So I then bought a 3 pin "flasher" relay similar to the one in Brian's post, but that didn't work either !!!!!

Total cost so far, about £15  

Finally, I bought some resistors. They say you might need one per lamp, so I bought 4, total cost £6.38. fitting one to each side at the rear sorted the job out, and I have a couple of spare's  

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181462503819?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Talk about a saga 

It looks good but see here i.e. be prepared to send it back if it doesn't work 

Brian 

Iv'e found a solution that works very well, i took the gamble and ordered the relay.
This is the relay www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INDICATOR-FLASHER-RELAY-YAMAHA-R1-R6-FOR-LED-BULBS-/281075300819

It has 3 pins but the one does nothing, the earth wire needs connecting and it fits to the original mounting rubber. A led instrument panel bulb is also needed

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251501995374%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Here's a pic of the relay mounted 

-- Edited by locky on Tuesday 6th of January 2015 06:05:05 PM

Bad luck with the relay!

Locky seems to have found a solution - see here

I have used the simpler solution of adding resistors as shown in the thread and they work fine. It took me a while to realise that LED bulbs are polarity conscious 

Brian

Thanks for your help guys. This relay purchased from my local Yamaha shop did the trick. Removed the stock flasher and connected this one up the RIGHT way this time. Was easy Yellow to Brown, (battery) Red to Brown/white (signals), Black ground.

Sorted.

-- Edited by TTRfan on Wednesday 6th of May 2015 08:55:10 AM

not sure how you have got it wired, but a simple diagram attached

Hey team, just resurrecting the dead thread here - neither of the plug and play relay links above work. Anyone have a link to one that doesn't require rewiring? I've got some spare led bulbs in the shed so I thought why not? ;)

Replaced my two front bulbs with 10w led chips off eBay 

super bright - solder the wires on and silicon in there - the brightest flashers I’ve ever seen possibly even annoying 

will need resistors or a new flasher can before I do the back ones my only concern is they may be too bright at night but I don’t go out at night.  prob why I’m happy with my 12w led super bright headlight 

Result!

Thanks for the feedback Les 

I have this idea that resistors are tiny and that it should be possible to make your own  for the LED indicators - its knowing what the value of the resistor needs to be I guess.

We must throw away quite a few resistors with any defunct electronic gear.....

Found this https://www.hobby-hour.com/electronics/resistor_color_code.php

Brian

The led flasher unit turned up after nearly 7weeks it’s sold on eBay as an r1 led unit 

it plugged straight in but still needs the two resistor s on the front flashers 

it looks like a good unit it’s rare a unit fails but is a good replacement for the original and only around $3.00

 

Watch out for the Chinese flasher units lasted a couple of rides 

recommend resistors and led bulbs keep it standard 

fitted waterproof 10w day driving lights in the flashers today and they are super bright 

 

Base wrote:

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Just fitted some flush mount rear LED indicators today and noticed the fast flash issue (the fronts are still original). I take it the inline resistors discussed solved the issue? What resistance is required?

 

Cheers

Cam.

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 I fitted these on top of the headlight bracket (bluey) one end of the resistor to indicator positive  and other end of resistor to earth one for each side (my phone puts pictures in upside down sorry )  heads up the headlight bracket isn’t earthed it’s rubber mounted 

50 watt 8 ohm  are spot on main thing is 8ohm resistor no Lower than 20watt or the resistor gets a bit hot 

-- Edited by ttboof on Tuesday 20th of February 2018 08:40:09 AM

Turned around for you (Cubber)

ttboof wrote:

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Watch out for the Chinese flasher units lasted a couple of rides 

recommend resistors and led bulbs keep it standard 

fitted waterproof 10w day driving lights in the flashers today and they are super bright 

 

I got some of them ages ago, never got around to fitting them. Thanks to this post, I will go and find / fit them

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