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Hello all,

I need a new surround for my TTR's headlight (don't ask!) However, Mine looks like this:

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But on eBay they are like this or this which are clearly different. So, which is the standard for this bike? Or should I just buy a generic light like this on TotallyTTRs? Does anyone have one of these? Have you got a photo of how it looks fitted?

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Hi Nigel

Yours is the original TTR headlight unit as fitted to the official UK model. New ones are available here at a good price w

Blue_original_headlight_surround.jpg

Earlier blue imports (and current Australian models I think) have headlights like this:
Headlight_Europe_new1.jpg

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US headlights are usually like this - a blue version of the UK metal-tanked OE ones:

2002 US headlight.JPG

2002 US headlight rear view.JPG

 

UK metal-tanked OE headlight as fitted to UK TTRs:
 Headlight Unit white1a.jpg

 

White plastic headlight as fitted to Australian metal-tanked OE models. An improvement on the UK version as they have a glass light lens and run a halogen bulb. The same headlight unit as fitted to many Australian XT225 machines.

Australian white OE b.jpg

The Polisport headlights are a good match for the TTR - here is a pic of one fitted:
Polisport headlight fitted.jpg

For the sake of completeness, this is the standard Raid headlight - some have a small windshield fitted - but not this one:

Raid_Headlight1.jpg



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Hi TTRFan,

Thanks for the thorough explanation of all the differences, I guess that as the TTRs weren't officially imported into the UK for very long, 2nd hand ones like mine don't come up for sale very often. It's not easy to tell from the photos how interchangeable they are between models.

I don't expect to ride the bike in the dark very often (or at all, probably) but is the Polisport version better than the OE? If so, I'd probably go for that as it looks pretty good on the bike.

Thanks for your help,
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The yokes on which the headlight mounting brackets are attached are the same on all models. There might be some variations on these brackets but, basically, all the headlights are pretty much interchangeable.

I am guessing the Polisport and OE units are pretty similar in output. Anyone else able to comment from experience?

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TTRFan, your right, mine is the Aussie ones just like the first 2 pics, If I ever smash mine I'll get a polisport one, they look good

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Hi-help please.My 1999 TTR250 has a small plastic headlight with 36watt bulb.
So I got a Glass headlight (55/60 watt)and surround from a wreckers but they did not have the bracket.
Does know where I can find one?


This is my headlight


I need this bracket

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any suggestions how to improve a OE headlamp? (short of fitting a Raid one) Anyone fitted a cheap, more powerful aftermarket bulb that goes in without too much messing about?



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Have a look at Mr Blonde's post. The OE lens is plastic and a bigger capacity bulb might melt it so a glass replacement unit would be the way to go.

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So I got a Glass headlight (55/60 watt)and surround from a wreckers but they did not have the bracket.
Does know where I can find one?


I am sure there will be quite a lot of interest in upgrading the OE headlight with a glass unit.

Did you buy a complete TTR headlight as per the 2nd pic and, if so, have you managed to source a bracket yet?

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The 2nd pic is from is from your post TTR fan.

All the wrecker had was the headlight and the suround.

I can get a New bracket for NZ$90 dollars.I have looked around the New Zealand bike wreckers with no luck.
I might have to bite the bullet and pay the $90
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Depending what bulb you have installed at present, you may be able to go a bit higher wattage. I went from 15/15 to 35/35. Huge improvement. I have a raid with an OE headlight, so the fitting was a bit different, but I would recommend checking your bulb against the pictures on the www.totallyttrs.com site.



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Did you find the part Don?

If not, is this what you need?

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I have ordered the part from a Yahama dealer.
From the photo and picture onthe parts list-It looks like it goes all the way around the headlight and attaches to the bike.
Then the suround attaches to that.
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The part I needed finally arrived,To find out it will not bolt on my bike.
The Yokes must be different.

My TTR is a Jap import ,but looking at the suround it looks like the Yellow white US one above.

It will need some modification,nothing some tin snips and a little black paint will fix.
Don

You can see the difference in size between the two.







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Mr_Blonde wrote:

The part I needed finally arrived,To find out it will not bolt on my bike.
The Yokes must be different.


Hi Don

Don't know if you have been following my project bike thread but I had exactly the same problem. I had a brand new blue headlight unit like you just bought but it is designed for the blue bikes with the cable-driven speedos and wouldn't fit. The digital speedo is too big for it to fit around cry

If you do get yours to fit, can you post up some pics of your modifications as I will probably copy them!

Good luck.

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Hi Brian-I was hoping you had a better idea than me.D'OH
My only idea -is to bend a bit of sheet steel/aluminium like the headlight that there now.(the black one)
then bend down the two tabs at the top of the new bracket.(the blue one)
Then attach the new headlight to the home made bracket,then make a stay at the bottom.

P.s I am following your project bike thread now.
Don

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I think it may be a fruitless quest but has anyone managed to find a replacement headlight unit for the Open Enduro with a glass light unit and in white plastic?

I get asked quite often and it would be good to have a solution to offer.

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Good second-hand genuine "blue" TTR headlights with glass lenses are getting rarer by the day and new ones are an extortionate price no

I have tried a couple of headlight solutions today on my OE project bike with digital speedo - both very successful.

Firstly I tried a new headlight off a late WR250F. Sadly not a glass unit but it seems to throw a strong beam. It has a 36W/36.5W halogen bulb. 

The beam adjuster is nicely accessible and there is a lot of movement available.

WRF headlight1.jpg

Plenty of room for the digital speedo.

WRF headlight2.jpg

It needed a lead adapter making up to connect to the OE loom.

WRF headlight4.jpg

The WRF headlight has two locating holes at the bottom which locate on pegs on the WRF. It was fairly straight forward to rig up a bracket to replicate the pegs. The pic below shows work in progress. 

I have road tested the headlight in the dark and it is very good wink

WRF headlight5.jpg

 

The second headlight I tried was a new glass unit off an earlier WR250F. It has a 60W/55W H4 halogen bulb so I am guessing it will be good. I have now refitted it.

The beam adjuster on this headlight is also nicely accessible and there is a lot of movement available.

This one needed a lead adapter making up but to a different design. Pic to come.

Early WRF headlight.jpg

Early WRF headlight 2.jpg

I used an original blue lower headlight mount. I chopped off the locating peg to make it easy to adjust. 

WR250F headlight2.jpg

A bend in the plate put the locating captive nut in the right place so I needn't have bothered chopping off the peg no

WR250F headlight3.jpg

Easy fit and it didn't need a special bracket making up from scratch. It was a 5 minute job to adjust the blue headlight lower mount to centralise it biggrin.

This one has a glass lens so it will take a bulb upgrade without melting the lens.

The beam on this headlight seems about the same brightness and width as the pointy headlight but appears to have more depth. Main beam seems to cover more area but difficult to judge without the two headlights being run together. 

The biggest benefit over the pointy headlight is that it takes readily available H4 bulbs Just had a quick look on eBay and the range of H4 bulbs is big!

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Hi Brian,

I have been following this thread with a lot interest. I fitted a Honda XL200 (assembled in Brazil) headlight so that I could use an H4 55/60W bulb and while the light is good, it required too many brackets to get it to sit right and then on can't adjust the beam once it's bolted!

I love the look of the late model WR250F headlight but I don't know if 36W is good enough for night riding here in Kenya where streetlights aren't everywhere. The early model WR250F headlight looks good too and it's great it doesn't need a bracket made. Hurrah for the H4 bulb. Please let us know how well it illuminates at night and keep up the excellent work. A great many of us depend on you!!

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Hi there!

I'm about to replace my headlight and I was wondering if anyone has tried fitting this one on a TTR?

WR 450F Headlight 

Any known issues? Just want to make sure I've got everything I need before I take on this, my TTR is my only transport and I'd hate to end up stuck with no working headlight 

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If an owner wants to keep the original TTR headlight unit as fitted to the official UK model, new ones are available here at a good price w

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That's cheap!

I fitted one of these "pointy" headlights to a TTR. The time consuming bit is making up a bit of a complex bracket to hold the bottom of the unit.

See here and scroll down to my 17 August message.

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Thanks Brian!

There is nothing that hasn't beet tried here s

Looks like I've got a project for the Easter weekend then. And yes, that is cheap b



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Thanks Brian!

There is nothing that hasn't been tried here s


Please to have helped. I can take some better pics if you decide to go ahead.

There are lots of projects I haven't tried personally; fitting USD forks,  tuning the engine (porting, valve timing etc), super moto wheels, tuning up a carb/exhaust on a dyno, building a totally black TTR, etc etc w

A big challenge would be to find a cheap alternative rear mudguard b

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I am upgrading a TTR headlight with one of these beauties:

Headlight_Europe_new1.jpg

I have never fitted one before and would appreciate it if anyone could take their plastic cover off and post a good pic of what lies underneath. 

I need the equivalent of this picture - but a lot clearer!

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i have a 2000 and 2001 ttr 250. I am looking to upgrade the headlight. I am looking a a glass wr250 headlight. will this fit. and if not ay suggestions as to a glass unit that will. also imput on upgradeing the headlight itself would be greatly appreciated. thanx all



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did you use the search function and see this ??
http://ttr250.activeboard.com/t48039852/headlights-surrounds-types-bulbs-etc/

you will have to copy and paste as it wont allow me to add a link for some reason.



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Vic - click THIS to see the  headlight link in another window as JDM_stig wanted but couldn't. confuse

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thanks for the link I knew I had seen one somewhere but could not find it.

next question is do I have to use the wr cowling or can I use the ttr cowling?

next would be what adapter would I need from brains post to make it correct?

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I have a 1995  TTr 250 in white / purple.  Can I upgrade the headlight ie fit a newer unit easily ?? 

I bought this bike 6 months ago and it needs MOT now but low beam light not working.

 

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Welcome to TTR land, Ian.

Why not try a different bulb HERE

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Try a different headlight HERE

Check that yours doesn't just need a replacement bulb firstly. The dip fillament could be bust and a bulb is cheaper than a complete headlamp.

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Evening all,

Need a bit of advice from people who have  a lot more TTR knowledge than me.

I'm looking at upgrading the standard OE 'firefly' headlight for on-road/off-road night riding i.e Long Distance Trials. I've been looking at replacing the whole headlight unit. Trail Tech have a X2 35/35w Halogen set up that looks quite good. I know from having a look at the 'Mods' page on here the TTR can potentially support a decent unit.

I've had a response from Trail Tech and they've said it's feasible to add the X2 unit, but, I'd prefer to get feedback from the people that know. Failing that I'm open to suggestions smile

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Why not just replace the Bayou bulb with a  Super White 35W=60W? It would be cheaper than buying the headlight unit and just as good.

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Thanks for that Jarrah,

I was under the impression that because the headlight lens is plastic using anything more than 35W would melt the lens.

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No problems Phil.

It will be fine, here is a link for a visual- http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Super-White-35W-60W-Head-Light-Bulb-Yamaha-TTR-250-/140313831353?pt=Motors_ATV_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20ab5b27b9

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My TTR headlight mask is in very poor condition. The glass headlight is perfect. Would my glass headlight swap into this mask ?

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Yes biggrin



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Yet again, thanks Brian :) It does look a very close shape to the TTR mask, much better than an aftermarket item.



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Strange how in my blue ttr's manual it says in the specs that the bulb is 55/60w, but you only seem to be able to get these bulbs in 35w. Is this just another weird Yamaha discrepancy? confuseOr can you actually pick up this particular type of bulb in 55/60w anywhere? Mine is not the h4 type it is the s2 type one.



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See here - is yours like the B2 bulb shown in the second picture? I think that's an S2 type fitting.

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No mine is like the b3/b4 fitting. Think Yamaha just dealt out all the manuals saying 60w possibly??!...

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apart from this is what actually fits my fitting, a 35w;

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Yep - that's the B3 or B4 fitting.

It could be that your manual is for the pre-2004 "Europe" model which had the speedo in kms.

The UK model shows 35/35W - see below:

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Why couldnt they give us h4 bulbs too?! Bet they are signaficantly brighter.

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Very good question - I guess it is just toooo much like common sense no

The pre-2004 blue European TTRs had a 60/55W halogen bulb fitted - see here



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If i used my ttr exclusively for the road I would buy that. Just going to get damaged off road though.

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The polisport headlight you sell Brian is it any brighter than the standard OE item and most importantly is it easy to fit.

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A word of warning on bulbs .

I fitted one recently and it started to burn lamp .

When i changed it for a new one i noticed that the glass globe can be  larger or smaller depending on manufacturer  large one sits too close to the reflector and was overheating it .



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The polisport headlight you sell Brian is it any brighter than the standard OE item and most importantly is it easy to fit.


They are brighter than the standard white OE headlight units but that is probably a lot to do with new reflector!

They aren't quite as good in comparison to the standard blue TTR headlight unit but, if your headlight needs replacing, they are a lot cheaper wink

And of course they look good!

Very easy to fit biggrin

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Cheers comeragh, I shall bear that in mind, pretty sure this bike-it one is same shape as last one that was in there and not any longer!....



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