A forum for owners of Yamaha TTR250 trail and enduro bikes!

Hi Nigel

Yours is the original TTR headlight unit as fitted to the official UK model. New ones are available here at a good price 

Earlier blue imports (and current Australian models I think) have headlights like this:

 

US headlights are usually like this - a blue version of the UK metal-tanked OE ones:

 

UK metal-tanked OE headlight as fitted to UK TTRs:
 

 

White plastic headlight as fitted to Australian metal-tanked OE models. An improvement on the UK version as they have a glass light lens and run a halogen bulb. The same headlight unit as fitted to many Australian XT225 machines.

The Polisport headlights are a good match for the TTR - here is a pic of one fitted:

For the sake of completeness, this is the standard Raid headlight - some have a small windshield fitted - but not this one:

The yokes on which the headlight mounting brackets are attached are the same on all models. There might be some variations on these brackets but, basically, all the headlights are pretty much interchangeable.

I am guessing the Polisport and OE units are pretty similar in output. Anyone else able to comment from experience?

Brian

any suggestions how to improve a OE headlamp? (short of fitting a Raid one) Anyone fitted a cheap, more powerful aftermarket bulb that goes in without too much messing about?

Mr_Blonde wrote:

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So I got a Glass headlight (55/60 watt)and surround from a wreckers but they did not have the bracket.
Does know where I can find one?

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I am sure there will be quite a lot of interest in upgrading the OE headlight with a glass unit.

Did you buy a complete TTR headlight as per the 2nd pic and, if so, have you managed to source a bracket yet?

Brian 

Depending what bulb you have installed at present, you may be able to go a bit higher wattage. I went from 15/15 to 35/35. Huge improvement. I have a raid with an OE headlight, so the fitting was a bit different, but I would recommend checking your bulb against the pictures on the www.totallyttrs.com site.

Mr_Blonde wrote:

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The part I needed finally arrived,To find out it will not bolt on my bike.
The Yokes must be different.

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Hi Don

Don't know if you have been following my project bike thread but I had exactly the same problem. I had a brand new blue headlight unit like you just bought but it is designed for the blue bikes with the cable-driven speedos and wouldn't fit. The digital speedo is too big for it to fit around 

If you do get yours to fit, can you post up some pics of your modifications as I will probably copy them!

Good luck.

Brian

Good second-hand genuine "blue" TTR headlights with glass lenses are getting rarer by the day and new ones are an extortionate price 

I have tried a couple of headlight solutions today on my OE project bike with digital speedo - both very successful.

Firstly I tried a new headlight off a late WR250F. Sadly not a glass unit but it seems to throw a strong beam. It has a 36W/36.5W halogen bulb. 

The beam adjuster is nicely accessible and there is a lot of movement available.

Plenty of room for the digital speedo.

It needed a lead adapter making up to connect to the OE loom.

The WRF headlight has two locating holes at the bottom which locate on pegs on the WRF. It was fairly straight forward to rig up a bracket to replicate the pegs. The pic below shows work in progress. 

I have road tested the headlight in the dark and it is very good 

 

The second headlight I tried was a new glass unit off an earlier WR250F. It has a 60W/55W H4 halogen bulb so I am guessing it will be good. I have now refitted it.

The beam adjuster on this headlight is also nicely accessible and there is a lot of movement available.

This one needed a lead adapter making up but to a different design. Pic to come.

I used an original blue lower headlight mount. I chopped off the locating peg to make it easy to adjust. 

A bend in the plate put the locating captive nut in the right place so I needn't have bothered chopping off the peg 

Easy fit and it didn't need a special bracket making up from scratch. It was a 5 minute job to adjust the blue headlight lower mount to centralise it .

This one has a glass lens so it will take a bulb upgrade without melting the lens.

The beam on this headlight seems about the same brightness and width as the pointy headlight but appears to have more depth. Main beam seems to cover more area but difficult to judge without the two headlights being run together. 

The biggest benefit over the pointy headlight is that it takes readily available H4 bulbs Just had a quick look on eBay and the range of H4 bulbs is big!

Brian

 

Hi Brian,

I have been following this thread with a lot interest. I fitted a Honda XL200 (assembled in Brazil) headlight so that I could use an H4 55/60W bulb and while the light is good, it required too many brackets to get it to sit right and then on can't adjust the beam once it's bolted!

I love the look of the late model WR250F headlight but I don't know if 36W is good enough for night riding here in Kenya where streetlights aren't everywhere. The early model WR250F headlight looks good too and it's great it doesn't need a bracket made. Hurrah for the H4 bulb. Please let us know how well it illuminates at night and keep up the excellent work. A great many of us depend on you!!

If an owner wants to keep the original TTR headlight unit as fitted to the official UK model, new ones are available here at a good price 

Brian

 

Thanks Brian!

There is nothing that hasn't beet tried here 

Looks like I've got a project for the Easter weekend then. And yes, that is cheap 

I am upgrading a TTR headlight with one of these beauties:

I have never fitted one before and would appreciate it if anyone could take their plastic cover off and post a good pic of what lies underneath. 

I need the equivalent of this picture - but a lot clearer!

i have a 2000 and 2001 ttr 250. I am looking to upgrade the headlight. I am looking a a glass wr250 headlight. will this fit. and if not ay suggestions as to a glass unit that will. also imput on upgradeing the headlight itself would be greatly appreciated. thanx all

thanks for the link I knew I had seen one somewhere but could not find it.

next question is do I have to use the wr cowling or can I use the ttr cowling?

next would be what adapter would I need from brains post to make it correct?

thanx again for the reply'a and help

Welcome to TTR land, Ian.

Why not try a different bulb HERE

OR

Try a different headlight HERE

Check that yours doesn't just need a replacement bulb firstly. The dip fillament could be bust and a bulb is cheaper than a complete headlamp.

Martyn

 

 

Evening all,

Need a bit of advice from people who have  a lot more TTR knowledge than me.

I'm looking at upgrading the standard OE 'firefly' headlight for on-road/off-road night riding i.e Long Distance Trials. I've been looking at replacing the whole headlight unit. Trail Tech have a X2 35/35w Halogen set up that looks quite good. I know from having a look at the 'Mods' page on here the TTR can potentially support a decent unit.

I've had a response from Trail Tech and they've said it's feasible to add the X2 unit, but, I'd prefer to get feedback from the people that know. Failing that I'm open to suggestions 

Many thanks

 

Thanks for that Jarrah,

I was under the impression that because the headlight lens is plastic using anything more than 35W would melt the lens.

Phil

My TTR headlight mask is in very poor condition. The glass headlight is perfect. Would my glass headlight swap into this mask ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-Yzf-Wr-250-400-426-450-Headlight-/291322280385?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item43d42939c1

Yet again, thanks Brian :) It does look a very close shape to the TTR mask, much better than an aftermarket item.

-- Edited by locky on Wednesday 17th of December 2014 07:54:00 PM

See here - is yours like the B2 bulb shown in the second picture? I think that's an S2 type fitting.

Brian

Yep - that's the B3 or B4 fitting.

It could be that your manual is for the pre-2004 "Europe" model which had the speedo in kms.

The UK model shows 35/35W - see below:

Very good question - I guess it is just toooo much like common sense 

The pre-2004 blue European TTRs had a 60/55W halogen bulb fitted - see here

The polisport headlight you sell Brian is it any brighter than the standard OE item and most importantly is it easy to fit.

j180 wrote:

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The polisport headlight you sell Brian is it any brighter than the standard OE item and most importantly is it easy to fit.

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They are brighter than the standard white OE headlight units but that is probably a lot to do with new reflector!

They aren't quite as good in comparison to the standard blue TTR headlight unit but, if your headlight needs replacing, they are a lot cheaper 

And of course they look good!

Very easy to fit 

Brian

They should fit a wr200....