Great, thanks for the feedback, nice to know and another plus for the TTR 250! I need to give this bike a real test. I will be comparing to my 1994 DR 350. I loved that bike, ( got destroyed in an accident ) but I'm interested on how this bike will tackle things. I know power won't be the same but from what little I have ridden it the flickability and weight savings seem much better, hopefully a higher fun factor!