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petenz · Super Guru

oil change

mypobox · Veteran Member

If I were you. Id just change the oil and let the filter in longer.

peteBLUEttr · Super Guru

I would say 1000 miles or more is fine (1600km), or just do it when you feel the gear change has become slightly 'clunkier'. Its not a KTM! Pretty sure the manual says 1500 miles anyway. But that is probably more aimed at road riding..

If you get yourself a mesh filter you can just swill it through with wd40 and reuse it, they hardly ever have any bits in them at oil change anyhow

-- Edited by peteBLUEttr on Friday 8th of May 2015 08:40:01 PM

TTRfan · Super Guru

peteBLUEttr wrote:
or just do it when you feel the gear change has become slightly 'clunkier'.

That's my method Pete!

petenz · Super Guru

Think i will put a oil cooler on it... Will give a few extra drops of oil in the

system...

The worry I have is with a build up of clutch fiber in the oil as it

has a Rekluse clutch in it.....

-- Edited by petenz on Saturday 9th of May 2015 12:11:43 PM

Clutha · Veteran Member

Oil change?

TTRfan · Super Guru

Glad you liked it! Lots more available here biggrin biggrin biggrin

Clutha · Veteran Member

Life is full of little challenges confuse

peteBLUEttr · Super Guru

Oh dear a cold chisel needed huh!..

TerryK · Super Guru

Oil change schedule

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

i change my ttr engine oil every 600 to 700 miles and the oil filter every 2 changes it only holds 1 litre cheap as chips

TerryK · Super Guru

I use a semi syn oil at $18 a lt but do the filter every time

Terry

leigh · Senior Member

Thanks for posting Terry, very interesting. I was the one that asked you about it. I do mine around 800 to 1000k was doing them earlier (4-500k) initially but seems a waste of good oil!

I change the oil on my DRZ at 4000k (5k recommended 1.7l of oil). I think Mark Van posted that he did his TTR oil changes at around 2000k.

I wonder how 1.2 litres of oil can last 10,000k though and the recommendation to check the oil filter every 20,000k. Where did that manual come from?

My interest in this on the odd long adventure ride I have planned if I went over 1000k maybe did 1500 k or more I probably would just do it and not worry about oil changes, and have been interested in others experiences with longer service intervals.

Leigh.

If anyone is interested I previously used Sikolene 10-40w semi synthetic oil for around $60 for 4 litres (cheaper on special every now and then). I've switched to a "car" oil, Penrite GAS 10 - its often $35 for 5 liters, 10-50w, semi synthetic, JASO MA certified suitable for wet clutches etc. Been fine in both bikes. Well tested by many other bike riders.

TerryK · Super Guru

leigh wrote:
Thanks for posting Terry, very interesting. I was the one that asked you about it. I do mine around 800 to 1000k was doing them earlier (4-500k) initially but seems a waste of good oil!

I change the oil on my DRZ at 4000k (5k recommended 1.7l of oil). I think Mark Van posted that he did his TTR oil changes at around 2000k.

I wonder how 1.2 litres of oil can last 10,000k though and the recommendation to check the oil filter every 20,000k. Where did that manual come from?

My interest in this on the odd long adventure ride I have planned if I went over 1000k maybe did 1500 k or more I probably would just do it and not worry about oil changes, and have been interested in others experiences with longer service intervals.

Leigh.

If anyone is interested I previously used Sikolene 10-40w semi synthetic oil for around $60 for 4 litres (cheaper on special every now and then). I've switched to a "car" oil, Penrite GAS 10 - its often $35 for 5 liters, 10-50w, semi synthetic, JASO MA certified suitable for wet clutches etc. Been fine in both bikes. Well tested by many other bike riders.

I downloaded the owner manual but it was different to the one I got with the bike so I searched the part number of the manual & hey presto....search for 4PX-28199-2G

It's less than 3mb so I can email if required

Cheers Terry

leigh · Senior Member

Thanks for the info Terry, downloaded that just now. Looks like the Aussie owners manual V's the American one - which has more comprehensive workshop info.

For the American and pure offroad market I guess thats why 1000k is recommended but 10,000k for the Aussie market. I guess as its marketed as a roadtrail road miles are less stressful, but 10,000k seems a long time hey

Well it answers my question, and I'm not at all concerned now if I go over 1000k on one service. They must be a sturdy motor if its even possible to suggest a 10,000k oil change Bit shocked to read that to be honest.

So you have done a few 5000k services Terry?

-- Edited by leigh on Thursday 15th of December 2016 10:38:19 PM

-- Edited by leigh on Thursday 15th of December 2016 10:38:46 PM

TerryK · Super Guru

Yes I did oil & filter @ 1000km, 5000kms, 10000kms & due at 15000kms

I use a good oil & replace the filter every time

Rds Terry

martin555 · Veteran Member

uber-pro NASA space tech approved "HIFI" washable oil filter. hope it does not collapses?

petenz · Super Guru

Mines get oil/filter every 2 or 3 rides that somewhere between 200 to 300km..

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ttboof · Super Guru

petenz wrote:
Mines get oil/filter every 2 or 3 rides that somewhere between 200 to 300km..

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similar to me but i use the gause filter and wash it each time if its a realy hard day will drop the oil after one ride

if its cooler and not much clutch slipping ext it would fit the normal operating conditions as per the manual

mallywoods · Veteran Member

Oil Change

TTRfan · Super Guru

Hi Malcolm

I use Fuchs Silkolene Super 4 10W-40 semi-synthetic oil. I think that your Castrol oil is semi-synthetic so my guess is that it's OK to use wink

More info here http://www.ttr250.com/#Oil_filter

Brian

PS Looking forward to seeing some photos of your TTR biggrin

mallywoods · Veteran Member

THANK YOU. pictures will follow

-- Edited by mallywoods on Friday 27th of April 2018 09:09:03 PM

z1g · Senior Member

Thanks, i'll be swapping my oil with this now.

mallywoods · Veteran Member

Here she be as we say in Norfolk, and the bike will never see mud or off road crap and dust as long as i own it, 1997 and 5000kms it will never see rain in my lifetime. love her to much for that.

Moo · Senior Member

Nice looking gal!

Mutley · Veteran Member

Looks good!

petenz · Super Guru

mallywoods wrote:
Here she be as we say in Norfolk, and the bike will never see mud or off road crap and dust as long as i own it, 1997 and 5000kms it will never see rain in my lifetime. love her to much for that.

If it's never going offroad you should look at turning it into a motard...

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ttr steve · Super Guru

Very nice indeed. You gotta get her dirty at least once wink wink

Ross · Veteran Member

Im about to change the oil on my bike after 600 miles.

I was thinking of just changing the oil and then doing the filter and oil every other oil change so at 1200 miles.

I would be interested in peoples opinions on this as too me a new filter every 600 miles seems a bit excessive.

The bike is used for trail riding its not raced. I'm too slow!

Thanks in advance

Ross

This appears elsewhere but i think it should be here

devon_rich · Senior Member

Apparently I change mine more often than most!

Oil about every 3 rides (typically 100 miles each) and filter every 3 or 4 changes.

Mines an OE without oil cooler and the oil comes out manky....

Ross · Veteran Member

Thanks Rich

Our filter changes would be similar!

ttr steve · Super Guru

The filters can always be cleaned, unless they are the paper type. I only change like Rich smile

Steve

Kaos · Senior Member

I'm with Devon Rich and change mine out after about 3 or four rides, usually about three or four hundred km, or when the oil gets a bit dark.
Usually the gear changes will be noticeably worse if the oil starts going off so the bike will tell you.

There is a big difference in maintenance depending on usage. If you are cruising along clocking up easy miles there isn't a lot of stress so oil changes can be stretched out for more hours and miles. As opposed to clutch slipping, revving and getting hot on slow technical terrain or racing or pushing the engine in deep sand..

oil is cheap compared to engine rebuilds.

SussexTony · Senior Member

I bought my bike about two months ago , and the gentleman seemed nice and trustworthy, I’ve been on it for about three hours in total, and and where I’m not used to four strokes , I thought it sounded abit tapordee, but the man said he had just done oil change, but it kept bugging me, so undon sump nut and to my surprise,it was the worse oil I’ve ever seen in my life. And the filter well I could not see how oil would have got though it ? I’m still in shock , Well at least I no what a four stokes should sound like now thank god I changed it, lesso for everyone if u don’t know the person you buying bike from , be careful!!!!!?

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

change it regular oil is cheaper than engine failure just my two pence worth john

SussexTony · Senior Member

Ya , o no , I’m just so glad I changed it, It purrs like a kitten now, I treated it to really good oil , and filter I think it earned it , I even flushed engine though, (. Motul oil. , and. Kn filter and twin air filter and spark plug ). I’m going to give it a good run tomorrow ,c how it runs now , ?

SussexTony · Senior Member

Took bike out today, what a difference, it’s like riding a new motorcycle , gearbox smooth, and it definitely doesn’t get has hot as much! And not as noisy as it was ! And seems to have abit my power, which might be because I tighten the chain and lubed it , now the front wheel comes up in 2 , and 3 nicely but still think the front forks not.good I was going to get some yz forks but my mate said try get better spings and good think oil for them first? Because the ya ones Might fit.but will knock the geometry out? He might be wrong but he did used to work on my motocross bikes back in the 90s

SussexTony · Senior Member

But rear shock , might be worth changing to yz one he said he will have look at weekend when he strips my carb apart,

mossproof · Super Guru

Just service the forks and check the damping settings. They are normally pretty good when looked after.
If you can get a yz shock to fit, you will be the first!