We seem to have more luck with the translate in our emails.
In my opinion you can just about get away with the minimum setting on the riser kits (20mm) if you re -route the cables, any more than this and you will need the longer cables.
Steve,
you are right with our translation.
So I understand, I can lift 20 mm without changing the cables.
Thank you all for your help.
Martyn, you're right.
Also subject to how wide the bars are, I run slightly wider bars & as such cant use risers, same as different height bars, you must only base the ideas on the standard bars.