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Moo · Senior Member

TTR 250 Illegally down as 125?

TTRfan · Super Guru

He ain't wrong! DVLA has it as a 125cc. Can't believe the MOT tester didn't pick that up. Bit of a big bike for a 125cc....

Cheap enough for a clean looking TTR though!

rdchair · Veteran Member

Insurance void in any claim!

Gerry atric69 · Veteran Member

I saw this advert and thought what a dick to advertise the fact. But how did it get registered as a 125?
It's the first ttr250 to come up for sale close enough for mr to have a look at too.

RichR · Member

Nice clean bike for that kind of money, but re-registered as 125!!!!!??????!!! Don't know where to begin with that. . . .

Moo · Senior Member

Makes me wonder if the frame numbers match the log book? Have they changed the CC on the ttrs V5... Or have they just out a different number plate on the ttr?

RodYorkttr · Senior Member

I saw this advert also & thought he should have perhaps worded it differently!
How do you downgrade a 250cc bike to a 125cc bike- is it just a paper exercise?

There is an XT225 (serow) that keeps popping up- "downgraded" to a 125cc, apparently ideal for a 17yr old on a CBT.

Moo · Senior Member

RodYorkttr wrote:

How do you downgrade a 250cc bike to a 125cc bike- is it just a paper exercise?

It involves writing into the DVLA to change the CC on the V5/Logbook

Its always a bit hit and miss, but it usually involves something like an engineers report or evidence of the change in CC. But even then, sometimes its rejected, other times its returned with the changes made. I suppose it depends on the mood of whoevers doing the change! The DVLA is a strange place.

I once changed a Honda C90 to a 110cc with a Lifan engine, that was easy enough.

Tbh i think the DVLA only car if the vehicle changes a tax band, which means more or less monies for them!

On that same C90 i had real trouble getting the V5, they initially told me it had been scrapped. I'd argued this as you had to take the frame in to get it scraped, but i still had the frame. Turned out the V5 hadn't been reissued since 1973 and it was down in their archive... they just couldn't be bothered to go and look!! But i did get it reissued eventually...

RodYorkttr · Senior Member

Thanks Moo- I wonder how the seller managed this, as there clearly hasn't been a change of engine...I suppose, as you say, its down to the person whom reviews the information sent in.
I have recently applied to uprate a vehicles gross weight. The same applies apparently, but fortunately it went through with the proof of work & undertaking I submitted.

skyrider · Senior Member

some people apply to uprate the the weight on motorhomes sometimes

RodYorkttr · Senior Member

Skyrider!- that's exactly what I did mine on!
I have a classic hymer & applied to uprate the gross weight to allow me to carry a TTR on the back.
There is a company that charges £400 to do it all for you, but I went a different route and added air suspension, heavy duty rear leaf springs, extra support on the chassis & uprated tyres. I then contacted DVSA & provided the supporting evidence etc. It took a while, but it came through- I just need to get a new vin plate..but what a chew!

Dan-in-a-Van · Veteran Member

I ended up on here with a TTR because the DVLA were too inflexible to sort out a simple admin issue.

I originally had a Chinese GY200 as my winter hack. The V5 had it down as a British Trackstar with no model listed. When I first had it on the road back in 2010 I told the insurance company it was a GY200 but they had to insure it as a Hongdou because it didn't show up on their database as a BTS. After a few years of use I took it off the road, SORN'd it and left it in the back of the garage.

Earlier this year I dusted it off, got it running and tried to re-insure it. Every company I spoke to refused to insure it because of the Make / Model combination. I wrote to the DVLA to ask them to add GY200 to the model field of the V5 but they flatly refused. They said I would have to provide a letter from the original manufacturer stating the make and model before they would change the V5. Given that any one of a dozen Chinese manufacturers could have produced it, getting a letter was decidedly unlikely.

I even tried to find a way of getting the previous policy details accepted and the bike insured as a Hongdou again. After speaking to MID and a couple of the companies who provide the data to the insurance companies databases I gave up as no-one wanted to offer a policy. One company gave me a quote based on a KTM250 that had an excess five times higher than the bike was valued at?

In the end I gave the GY to a friend who has a farm in North Devon to use as a field bike and bought my TTR.

So happy ending after all ;)