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Fitting a replacement bump stop can only be done after removing the shock absorber from the TTR.

Clean the shock absorber as best you can to make it easier/nicer to work on.

The first thing to be done to get at the bump stop is to remove the spring.

I don't think there is any alternative to compressing the spring safely other than to use a proper set of coil spring compressors such as shown here.

It is only necessary to compress the spring enough for it to rotate freely on the shock.

Replacing bump stop 1.jpg

 

Before going any further take a note of the compression on the spring so that it can be put back together with the same sag or ride height.

Spring retainer depth.jpg

 

This makes it easier to release the spring adjusters by undoing them until they are free from their threads. A punch and hammer can be used if the correct tool isn't available.

Replacing bump stop 2.jpg

 

Removing the rings gives enough movement to remove the slotted bottom retainer:

Replacing bump stop 3.jpg

 

You can see why I wanted to replace the bump stop. It virtually fell apart:

Replacing bump stop 4.jpg

 

At this point it is possible to test the action of the shock absorber by pushing in the damper rod. It should return to the fully extended position fairly quickly.

But mine didn't - absolutely no resistance at all cry

Replacing bump stop 5.jpg

 

All pressure has been lost so it will need sending off for a new seal head to be fitted along with new oil and a re-gas no

To be continued..................



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The big problem I have had in the past in stripping down a shock to replace a bump stop has been holding the chromed damper rod securely enough to remove the end parts without damaging the rod. A lot of force is required and it is likely that the rod would be damaged if enough force was used to hold it in a vice.

Rather than hold things up waiting for my shock to be revived, I decided to go ahead and make up a rod clamp and try it on a spare shock.

A while back I looked at Paul Olesen's impressive DIY manuals and guides and was particularly interested in his "Shock Building Tools and Parts Guide" . However, it didn't include a tool or method to hold the damper rod so I emailed him for advice. 

This is his reply:

"In order to grip the shaft without damaging it you may need to fabricate a special clamp for the shaft. You could do this by finding a piece of aluminum which is approximately 1" square and 1-2 inches long. Drill a hole (lengthwise) through the aluminum block that is the same diameter as the shaft. Then carefully cut down the center of the block and split the block into two. Each piece can be fit around the shaft and clamped in a vice. This should provide sufficient clamping force to keep the shaft from twisting while you are working on it."

So I had a plan biggrin

I bought a length of 1" square aluminium stock from eBay and made up the tool this morning and am delighted to confirm it works!

I cut off a short length of the aluminium bar and drilled a hole of 13mm diameter. 1mm less than the diameter of the rod to get a good fit. My hacksawing wasn't very accurate and I didn't get a 90 degree cut despite marking the bar with a set square and also my technique with pillar drill isn't great and I didn't get the hole central. Word of warning, the piece gets very hot and I burnt my fingers picking it up quite a while after doing the drilling disbelief

 Rod holder 1.jpg

Rod holder 2.jpg

 

Unusually in my experience, there weren't any flats on the end piece to get a wrench on so, against all my rules, I had to resort to using Mole grips to get the blighter off!

Removing shackle 1.jpg

 

The reason the tool works is that it grips on a much bigger area of the rod than if it was on its own in a vice where only the two sides of the rod would be gripped.

Removing shackle 2.jpg

 

Removing shackle 3.jpg

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All that is needed now is to fit the new bump stop and re-assemble smile

Bump stop fitted.jpg

 

With the spring compressed it is easy to re-fit the spring retainers underneath the new bump stop.

Refitting spring retainers.jpg

 

It's good when a plan comes together!

Brian



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peteBLUEttr wrote:

£125 Not bad I been to mevagissey its nice..


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Having got thus far, I couldn't resist stripping the shock down further to see the seal head etc.

Shock disassembled.jpg

 

Made a bad mistake. The shock was de-pressurised so I took off the reservoir line and drained the oil. I didn't do a very good job as when I popped out the innards I got myself and everything else covered in nasty dirty thin oil disbelief

 



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Shock now completely re-assembled with new bump stop and, for good measure, one of our after-market top shock kits wink

Shock complete 2.jpg

 

Job done!

Brian

PS I finished the project using a good shock rather than wait for the shock I originally started working on to be repaired. I have taken 3 other "spare" shocks to The Worx in Cowley Bridge Road, Exeter for assessment as they didn't have good "actions" Had a phone call from their shock guru Ian yesterday. Two will need a complete overhaul to include new seal heads, oil and re-gassing. The other one will just be serviced and re-gassed. I will let you know what I think of the service and the prices when the work has been done wink

PPS Two of the springs had chips and a bit of rust on them so have taken them to get powder coated. The shop had a very good colour match so fingers crossed they turn out OK!



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I collected three shocks from The Worx today and am still reeling from the shock (excuse the pun) of the cost!  The regas was £18 (fair enough) but the two that were complete rebuilds with new seal heads were over £156 each shocked.gif

My fault for not getting a price first but makes me feel queasy sick.gif

I am very very tempted to have a go at repairing the next one myself and just taking it for pressurising!

Shot blasting and powder coating the springs cost £15 per spring so I will have some very expensive rear shocks in stock no

The photo below is of the powder coated springs alongside an original (in the middle) so that you can see what a good colour match 1st Choice Finishes achieved.

Brian

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Brian, do you know how they pressurise the shock? Is there a Schraeder valve that they use, or something more cunning? I've read about shock recharges with nitrogen, always wondered how much difference it would make doing it with air, after all that's 79% nitrogen, would like to understand the impact of the oxygen.

The reason i ask about the Schraeder valve is that i have shock pumps for mountain bike suspension that can easily pressurise a shock to a couple of hundred psi. Wondered if it might be worth an experiment...

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Hi Simon

No - a different type of valve is used but GreyWolf shows us how to replace it with a Schrader valve here

He suggest using Castrol Fork Oil Synthetic SAE 10W as "the universal oil for forks and shock absorbers". He also suggest 10-atmospheres or 10-bar of pressure (147 psi?).



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I have exactly the same shock pump that GreyWolf shows in his write up, if you ever want to borrow it, just let me know. It'll do 147psi withoit breaking a sweat!

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Padowan wrote:

I have exactly the same shock pump that GreyWolf shows in his write up, if you ever want to borrow it, just let me know. It'll do 147psi withoit breaking a sweat!


 like car tires they use nitrogen as it has a more consistant pressure with temp changes 

id say the good old ttr using fresh  air wouldnt be a problem havent had the opertinity to try it. But niticed my bump stop is on its way out today 



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