I've been lurking around here for a while, trying to make a decision which dual purpose bike to buy
I think I'm going to buy a brandnew one, because I don't know too much about engines, and I didn't feel
comfortable with the people I rang up who are selling their bikes. I don't want a bike that's been trashed around in the bush and possibly been
under water etc. Neither of them had logbooks and were not first owners either...
It seems like it's a good time to buy a new bike right now, the dealers have specials and cash-backs going on at the moment.
These are the prices I got from the local Cairns dealers. All are driveaway with 12 months rego.
CRF250L: $7000
DRZ-250: $7500
DRZ-400E: $8000
DRZ-400S: ? forgot to ask
TTR250: $7700
KLX250S: $8000
I'm 6"1, 80kg and will be driving about 80% road and 20% light offroad. It's not a sport to me, just a transport around the Mareeba farms. I will do the occasional trip to Cairns from Mareeba.
The Honda is out of question, it's too heavy and I don't like the dealer. Dealer relation is important to me as I will need them to service my bike and give me good and honest advice in the future.
I'm tossing between the TTR250 and the DRZ's. I really like the DRZ-400E. I like the colour, the power, but not the low and close ratio gearing. I want a smooth ride on the highway on low revs and good fuel economy. The DRZ-400E is also missing pillion pegs and a kickstarter. A kickstarter is too expensive to fit, I don't know about the pillion footpegs. The local Suzuki dealer is also a great place to go to. Really relaxed and they don't push you around and try to sell you something. I'd trust them to look after my bike. The DRZ-400S comes in black only and visually doesn't appeal to me. But it has pillion pegs, and higher gearing.
However the TTR-250 seems to have about everything right. Kickstarter, footpegs, dual-purpose tires, ideal seat height for me, good gear ratio and the bike looks good too.
I don't know the power difference between these bikes AFTER derestriction. Whatever bike I will buy, I will ask the dealer to derestrict it for me.
I haven't owned a DRZ so can't comment personally. However, a friend bought a TTR from me a few years ago and, after a while, sold it on and bought a DRZ. We were chatting at the pub last week and he asked if I had another TTR forsale as he preferred the TTR over the DRZ. Take from that what you will
He is over 6 foot tall and not slightly built and an expert rider who used to do well in enduros and Long Distance Trials (LDTs) but now does a lot of miles trail riding in the UK.
Brian
PS Have you been checking out the DRZ forum and what's it like?
Good to see new people joining the forum,especially ones so close. I'm up the tableland way too ''UP THE TABLELANDS :)''
I'm probably not much help about deciding what bike but can say that the TTR is a great all round bike & can't be beaten for reliability (as far as i'm concerned:)
TTR250 good points:
First one would have to be the fact there not water cooled,good on fuel,very comfortable,good riding postion,excellent gear ratio,great handling ect. ect.
TTR250 bad points:
A little too tall for some (im 180cms),could have a little more power (can be tweaked) but can't think of anything else other than minor things.
The DR400Z on the other hand is more of a roadbike with pretty good offroad abilities. Has heaps more power than a TTR250 & handles ok (considering the seemingly large tank ect),reliable but the downfall of wanting that extra gear when wound out,seat not so comfy for long rides,seems a little heavy around corners (but still ok).
Can't say much for the DR400Z though as i have only ridden a mates bike & have'nt done much on it.
I have on the other hand experienced how handy a TTR250 can be in the bush & onroad.
All this said it would be up to you which way you go but if your looking for power & don't ride long distances regually the DR400Z would be more the go.
If you just want a reliable all round bike & aint worried about heaps of power the TTR250 will serve you just fine.
I've had my TTR for about 12 months now, and so am happy with it although I ride nearly exclusivly off road, the 6 speed box is a great advantage on the tar and the dirt and so is the fuel economy, I get 20Klm per litre off road, I'm 6'2", around 90Kg
Having said that, If I wanted a more Duel Sport Bike I would buy a DRZ400 without hesitation, lots of excessories and the DRZ forum for help as well More power, reliable, but worse fuel economy and no 6th gear, also a crap seat, I would be sending it off to be widended and softened
I recon the TTR is the go for you, the seats are pretty resonable but I am still going to have mine rebuilt at this place, Australian Cumfy Motorcycle Seats
The TTR has everything you need I think
Luck BMSteve
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I didn`t realise that both the TTR and DRZ models were still available in Australia.
If he`s doing 80% road and 20% trail, comfort is needed,so he either has a special soft seat made for his DRZ or he buys a TTR.
The TTR is definitely underpowered compared to the DRZ, but would probably be far more comfy on the road trips.
The TTR is going to be much quieter then the DRZ, well the DRZ'E' anyway.
If he's set on more power, he's got to bite the bullet and buy the DRZ'S',and put up with it being black. He'll still have a sore bum though after a few miles!!
DRZ motors are pretty bullet proof, providing you carry out one or two simple mods.
One of the reasons I didn't get a DRZ400 was that I couldn't touch the ground as easily as the TTR
I agree - the TTR is more comfortable on the road, just lacks some grunt - a real dual sport 250. How good would a 400 TTR be?
I reckon the TTR250 is built well enough to take a 400cc engine. I know where I can get barrels forged but tracking down a suitable sleeve/liner plus a piston with the right stroke etc would be a challenge
The TTR600 doesn't get great reviews for offroad use and I don't know of any being used on lanes in Devon or neighbouring Counties of Cornwall, Somerset and Dorset.
What I do know is that a long time ago I bought a TTR that was missing its forks and yokes. These had been taken to improve the front end of a TTR600
Wow, thanks for all the replies. I was working on the farm and had no internet all week.
The only thing that worries me with a 250 is the lack of power on the highway. Here on the Tablelands you have to drive 110 km/h if you don't wanna be overtaken all the time. Does the TTR-250 go 110 km/h comfortably (after the basic derestrictions the dealer can do for me during the sale)? Will it struggle uphill keeping up that speed?
Yamaha dealer just told me today that these 2011 models TTR-250's they have on sale now are the last ones. After that there won't be any more TTR-250's coming into Australia.
Yamaha dealer just told me today that these 2011 models TTR-250's they have on sale now are the last ones. After that there won't be any more TTR-250's coming into Australia.
That is disapponting. However, the TTR is already a classic and there will be spares and accessories around for it for many years to come!
Not a bad production run - about 18 years with only minor changes!
Bit late I know but, I rode the DRZ400 in Malaga this year on an off road trip and yes it is a very good bike, better for fast road work and reliable, It handles fairly well too for a heavy off roader. But unless you want lots of power the TTR250 is much more comfy and user friendly, I know it sounds funny but Im 6ft tall and can stand on the foot pegs all day long on a TTR but I got very tired standing on the foot pegs on THE DRZ.