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Hi Folks,

I've read Brian's excellent kick start conversion topic, but I understand that the kits are 1. V pricey, and 2. not available any more. So, is there any other engine whose parts would fit as TTRs for breaking are pretty rare. I was thinking YZF or WRF maybe ?

Also how bad a clonk noise does the starter make if it's on it's way out ?

Cheers,

Mike

TTRfan wrote:

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A couple of owners tried similar looking kickstarts from other Yamaha dirtbikes including an XT350 I think. No-one has found one that fits so far.

 

Brian

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 What are the kick start part numbers....

Do a search as yamaha usaly don't change the part numbers other the the last 2 or 3 didget pre-fix

if the same part is used on diffrent models..

IE.. the Rekluse conversions I have done on the TTR & XTR as both bikes use the same clutch parts numbers as the

TTR250/WR250F/YZF250 use the same plates & part numbers , same with the XT660R/WR450F/YZF450 same part numbers..

So do a part number search on models that could use the same parts... XT250 , XT225 , WR250F , TW200 , ETC

since the TTR has been around for a few years now it could be a older model that is compatable...

Just done a search......

The main kick start shaft part 4GY 15660-00

I left out the 4GY and put in yamaha 15660-00 into google

got over 20 diffrent models that have a kick shaft with the 

number 15668-00

rangeing from 1980 XT/TT250 up to WR/YZF250

part number 3Y1- 15660-00 is the most common..

Thanks guys, and yes Brian, I think you're right. One of the parts that comes up is for the TR 125, and same number brings up RD250 and 350.

It's just that the WRF and YZF engines look so similar, but I guess they're different 

Worth having it for a back up, nice to know I got a back up if battery is toast or need to turn bike over a few times saves using the electric start and wear on sprag clutch

mossman asked the question about how often we use our kick starter .

My bike is five years old and I cable tied the lever to the frame when I bought the bike and has never been used .no trouble starting hot cold or after being upside down .

Any other feed back 

I use the TTR250 kick start quite a lot.
I also always kick start my WR250F (because of electrical problems - too lazy to fix its electric starter).

I can say that the WR is much easier than the TTR (presumably due to good auto decompression).

The TTR seems physically harder, and needs more attention to detail (starting at the right point in the stroke).
Hot restart is usually easy enough but when I try a cold kick start, I typically revert to the button after 1 or 2 failed kicks.

When my right leg was better than now (over 2 years ago) I could ONLY start mine on the kickstart when the engine was warm.

I tried many times when it was cold but ultimately had to use the button.

Now I don't bother using the kicker at all.

As the saying goes - why have a dog and bark yourself?

Martyn

interesting feed back , over all the electric leg is the go with the kick start waiting in the background if and its needed .

and its best to tie it back to prevent it flogging around .

from these few comments the cost of a kick start kit would be hard to justify .if you could find one .

Pendo wrote:

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Never used it till recently, battery is a bit old so sometimes the charge is a bit too low to kick the bike over (usually after sitting there for 3-4 weeks). I find that with one swift kick it starts, and then its the magic button all day.

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 What I do is I keep batteries charged by using a timer, I plug a battery charger into a power outlet timer, a digital one so every second day the charger kicks on for a couple of hours

then off again, this keeps my battery in top condition so is always ready to go, also keeps your battery from dying permanently.

When I managed to run my battery flat I bumped it.

Very often. i like the feeling...remembers me my...dirty past(other off road bikes with kick start only),plus its an easy way to save some power for battery..

ttboof wrote:

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starting to see a trend towards the electric leg . are spoilt ?  

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Yep we get used to the 'button', I was out on my 1956 Matchless when it stalled - instinctively I pushed a button that wasn't there - oh dear could be heard. 

I have noticed my kickstart is quite easy to push down it still starts and runs but how easy is it ment to be my old crf250 cough was very tight. 

good evening,i have managed to get a kickstart conversion kit thats missing the actual lever for my ttr,a possible fit is this one i found on ebay,the item is

  191663528336. <- KLICKY LINKY

  others ive found online dont seem to have the right curves or the shaft end looks wrong,this one looks ok.has anybody tried one?.martin

 

thanks pug/brian,ones on the way,if it fits well i will post a pic for reference,the parts were from a spares bike so not a kit as such,i won a motor[no kickstarter but+oil cooler]on ebay and am planning to rebuild it without the startermotor/mechanism over the winter,also thinking of fitting a mechanical speedo and better lighting,i have seen one on here that has a led spot under the headlight that looks ok so may copy that.all the best.martin

If the kickstart lever is left to its own devices, it's constant movement will wear the ball bearing at the bottom that locates it and it will become increasingly floppy.

My simple solution is to slip a small zip tie through the bottom shock reservoir Jubilee clip and hold the kickstart lever tight against it with a band of rubber.

Mine is starting to get a bit loose, caught my boot a couple of times lately as it was flopping out, a good clean, grease and reset the spring should fix it, then add the Cable Tie

OR

just be a lazy bastard and just add the cable tie :D

 

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Hey Mate, If no one on here has 1 lying around try a Yamaha dealer in Australia.
Being standard gear on ours over here, I'm sure someplace would have a replacement.

The official Yamaha kits were £310 about 10 years ago before they became unobtainable so that seems a very fair price Steve.

See http://ttr250.com/TTR_retrofitting_kickstart.htm for fitting instructions.

Brian

Ok Great

Will strip it out of the bike and weigh for postage tomorrow.

Please pm me your email.

Steve

 

devon_rich wrote:

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Jealous....

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 Maybe I should look into ripping them out of busted ttrs here in Oz for you guys? I've used my kick start twice in 12 months and just for giggles. Don't really get the fascination with them. Keep a battery tender on and check your battery maybe? Never really cared that I have it tbh. Never use the kick on the trails Etc. Why do you all seem to like them so much?

Never actally needed one. But not having one makes me nervous about dropping the bike in water. Have dried a few bikes out and then needed jump lead's to restart. Carry a length of flex just in case.

It's pretty easy to push start a 250 though. How bout you fly to Oz, take my assembly for naught and put a plug in, seal it up and we'd both be happy. Nice place for a visit/holiday here :)