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JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

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pug · Guru

Lot's of posts on Cam's on hear if you want a good starter cam go for a sj4000 the real one not a copy lots of videos on youtube how to tell a real one from a copy they can be had for around the £50 mark on Ebay. the copy's can be had for as little as £15 an they do work but will let you down in the end............ this type of cam Eats batteries so with either you are going to need 3-4 of them for a days running 7-9 hours an 2-3 32g mem cards. if you want to spend more then go for any of the gopro cam's but the are the same battery an mem card wise. if you want pro run all day gear then the 720 vio pov will do the job on one set of batteries an a 32g card the vio pov Hd will need a 64g card for the day. I have been using the vio cams for years an have 4 of them an to be honest you cant beat them yes I have 2 gopro cams as well an a Tachyon hd an 2 sj4000 cams an 2-3 of the copy's so I do just a little filming.

Pug

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

just had a look ebay 55.00 portsmouth keepinggame what do you think he has different prices im a bit confused what do i buy many thanks for your reply & interest john

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

looked a bit further it says from england but go to bottom of page they are from china even more confused are they genuine

pug · Guru

Just having a quick look John this is the pucker item hear link thing

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-SJCAM-SJ4000-WIFI-12MP-HD-1080P-Sports-DV-Action-Waterproof-Bike-Camera-/222377717995

last one I got was £70 came with 2 battery's an a 32g mem card with it you really need to watch the vids on youtube how to spot a fake it should be SJCAM
They made the Original one. if in doubt just get a cheap one an pay the £15 for it you can see how you get on with that type of cam an it might last one of the cheap ones I have is 3-4 years old an still running another went in the bin after 3 months I use them in high risk spots ie it might get smashed to bits if you put it there places and it's kid's at school that are using them so they don't look after anything.

Martyn

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

many thanks for your time martin even that says china are they all made in china how can you tell the difference from copy to origional is it the price if so how can you tell you are not buying a copy at 60 70 pounds also what s the best card to slide into them i can look on ebay for one

BM Steve · Guru

Get a Xiaomi Yi Camera, the original, not the 4K version if you want a good cheap camera

I got mine from ebay with waterproof case, aluminium case/frame, spare battery, external USB battery charger, bluetooth remote control

all for $120 aussie dollars delivered

The great thing about the Xiaomi Yi is it will shoot all the standard resolutions but will also shoot 2.4k at 30fp

And I can run it on an external power bank as well so I can run it all day, I can get 12 hours of 1080p video on a 64 gig memory card

I like the Xiaomi Yi, great quality video and very good price

Also the android app is good to to run it from your phone, I don't like the latest version

off the app, it's to aimed at social media, I run v2.2, works great with all the needed features and no crap.

I sold my old GoPro hero II on ebay, it paid for a smaller better camera

~

pug · Guru

As said John all made in China now that cam in the link is the real thing. if in any doubt on what you want get the copy for £15 The battery's an fixings an bits swap an fit the real ones as well so it's a good starting point see how you get on you can get the pucker one later. I myself can take some ace footage with a cam but I have no artistic bent on the editing what so ever an that is what sets a good video out from a bad one an it's not for lack of trying on my part I just don't have the knack ..........

Martyn

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

so just look at one for about £15.00 ill do that just look on ebay

pug · Guru

Hear you go
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTOR-BIKE-MOTOR-CYCLE-ACTION-HELMET-SPORTS-CAMERA-DV-CAM-HD-1080P-SJ4000-UK-/182099158805

I was looking an going funny eyed this one looks ok I could not find a proper 1080 hd one or one that would shoot that at more than 15-20 frames a second for the £15 spot an for that you need the real SJCAM SJ4000 it will do 30 frames at 1080 an 60 frames at 720 but don't fuss over that for now if you know bugger all about video it will just be lost on you I will just say you need lots of frames for real good slow mo fall off the bike
have fun with it an lob a link to your video work up when you get it on youtube I'm not going to point you at a video editor as I don't like any of them and other people don't seem to like the one I use.........

Martyn

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

many thanks for your time & paitence just ordered that one all i need is a micro sd but it says up to 32gb is that all they take do i just order a micro sdhc one

pug · Guru

They take up two a 32 micro sd card so you can use what ever you like up to that size as said it should be happy with a class 4 the fast film rate's 60fps an over need a class 1 card or it will speed trip over writing to the card. the little buggers at school take an use the cams an nick the 64g cards in them a swap them over with small 8 an 16 ones from there phones an seem to think its funny I now send a bill home to mum an dad for a new card each time it happens that gets them back 90% of the time

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

sorry martin dont understand class 4 can you point me in the right direction for a card then i can order that on ebay

pug · Guru

Hear you go just pic a size and they are class 4 cards
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KINGSTON-Micro-SD-SDXC-Memory-Card-Class-4-inc-SD-Card-Adapter-64GR-/272402277679

An as I said class 1 card or class 10 depends on which way you think of it a the way you was taught about memory ram ssd chips an such stuff

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kingston-16Gb-High-Capacity-Micro-SD-With-SD-Adapter-Class-10-G2-UHS-I-Class-1-/172563098266

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

are the cheaper 32gb ones on ebay no good

pug · Guru

best go with a brand name or mem chips but the same thing happens as with all things they get copied

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

cheers martin for your help just ordered a card 32gb to go with my camera

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

tried this on old laptop in garage works ok tried on my laptop which i take to isle of man for my photos will not work i think it is windows 7 or 8 does not recognise it when i plug it in in any one have any sugesstions

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

come on pug my friend can you help me please

pug · Guru

Sorry mate answered this this morning for but it never went up into the post sounds like it's software is it that the laptop is not picking up the camera when plugged into a USB port first the cam has to be on an set to storage device 2nd make sure it's a USB2 port not a USB3 that can give problems some times if all is right then it's likely the usb port set up take a look at that in settings. cant help much more than that as I would need to be sat looking at it with the keyboard in my hands. but as a 3nd hit if the laptop has a card reader slot take the card out of the cam an stick it in that will work 100% or if no slot you can get a little usb plug with a card reader on it back an that will work 100% as well something like this 99p on ebay

Martyn

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

cheers martin i will have a go

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

i am running windows 8 just found out This cam i cannot get it to playback or recognise my laptop

pug · Guru

Crap you are going to need to take the mem card out an copy the video file onto the laptop by card reader/usb plugin card reader then use this on the file when you get it on there then even if the file says it's mp4 still convert it to mp4 with it. you could go AVI with it but that can give problems as well.

www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/

It,s free you can convert the footage into any format then edit play with it in what ever editor still supports windows 8.

player wise try this player

www.videolan.org/vlc/index.en-GB.html

It,s free and will all most play near all video formats

Martyn

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

martin your a genius downloaded both those wow my sj4000 works can play it on my laptop & delete what i dont want but i cant watch them on its screen must be doing something wrong cheers john

pug · Guru

Nice to hear John if its just a video playback issue that player should play anything I have never seen a problem with it. there is lots of players out there you could download an try. but first try converting the file to a avi with the anyvideo converter program it will play then 99% likely or just upload it to youtube an play with it there.

Martyn

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

martin i mean veiwing them on its own screen playback what youve done

pug · Guru

Ah see what you mean now it's different on near all them cameras but it will play it back some how if it has wifi you can link it to your phone and you can save it an play it back on that as well but with the wifi switched on it will munch them little batteries in about half an hour each but very handy if you have put the cam onto the bottom of the bike fork leg or on the rear somehow for checking the shot line up. post up a link when you get some footage on youtube we all like a good TTR video or even a old Harley playing up for a Add to audience

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Y7pdv-EUM

Martyn

-- Edited by pug on Friday 24th of March 2017 07:42:15 PM

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

had it on bike the other day but i cannot play back on its own screen what do i do martin

pug · Guru

Sorry mate cant help they are all different depending on what software interface they have an with my old eyes the screens are so small I never use play back on them. I just run all the time then cut the video after on a pc with a 27 inch screen so I can see what I'm doing. is it playing back ok on the pc.............. ok. As I said they are a good starter cam to get you into it when you are flicking round Ebay keep an eye out for a Vio Pov cam any of the models will do a 1 / 1.5 or a HD they can be had for very little money I have seen the mk 1 go for £30 an it's a steal at that sort of money they sold for £500 + when they came out they are hd 720x480 only but you get a cracking picture from them an they are a Professional cam I have one hear 9-10 years old still running people think they must have a Gopro well not many people have a Vio pov then got to a Gopro people don't like them because it's a wired system but then you don't look like a telly tubby with it on your helmet so its a winner for me.

Martyn

Bullwinkle · Member

Hi Steve

Had a look on evilbay and am not sure which camera /package you got?

Do you have a link to the one you got?

All the ones I found were $160 ish and up

Do these work in a car like a dashcam?

Cheers

Simon

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

its a sj4000

pug · Guru

Hi mate this is the best how to vid on the sj4000 I can find

www.youtube.com/watch

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

the sj 4000 is not the same does not have that many functions ive been ripped off

pug · Guru

Maybe not ripped off not all of them have Wifi if that's what's missing the link I gave you 2nd 0r 3rd post had it but two of the ones I have hear don't I think it only came in on them in the last year or so. don't knock yourself if you have got hold of a copy they are still good for the job just a copy of a copy of a gopro look for films on youtube of how to get it to play back on its back screen. there is even a sj5000 out there funny thing is sj don't make one...................................... getting ready for them in advance I think they call it.

Martyn

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

MY SJ4000 IS VEIWING UPSIDE DOWN WHEN I LOOK ON THE SCREEN ANY CLUES PLEASE

pug · Guru

On the camera or when Editing on the pc the camera will flip the image with one of the settings in its menu as it can be mounted upside down just cheque out youtube for how to vids on flipping the image if its in the Editing and been recorded like that. If is your Editing package flipping it as it opens then most have a flip/rotate button in them

Pug

-- Edited by pug on Monday 24th of December 2018 06:59:56 AM

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

sorry martin i dont understand either age thing or thick ive read it 3 times do not understand pal

pug · Guru

Ok we will start off on a easier foot is the Image upside down on the camera back screen????? or just upside down on the Pc when opened for editing or viewing??????

JOHNYBOY · Super Guru

thanks for your paitence martin it is upside down on the screen

pug · Guru

depending on the camera the setting is in the menu on the camera to flip the image cheque youtube for rundowns on camera menus for the cam you have if you still cant find it try Factory reset as well . Don't worry if you cant There is a flip the image/picture in most editing software if you cant sort it on the camera. What are you using for editing your video?????