A forum for owners of Yamaha TTR250 trail and enduro bikes!

shack · Veteran Member

Engine Oil for the air filter- just checking

Lin · Senior Member

While some use engine oil, a better solution is to use proper foam air filter oil. Engine oil dries out pretty quickly and the foam loses it's particulate trapping effect. The correct oil stays gooey for a very long time.

I just wash in petrol twice - wash and rinse. Allow to dry for 15min (less if in the sun) then apply foam air filter oil.

Save the rinse petrol for the next wash. Wear rubber gloves.

Richie Blyth · Veteran Member

woo , this is news..... so where do you get this oil ?? I took my AF out the other day and it looked a little dirty, so I washed it and replaced it. doh........... another job on the list lol

shack · Veteran Member

Cheers for the info, I looked at the price of the 'proper' oil this morning, decided I'd wait to see if the engine oil would do, back to the shop next week then.
Good info about the petrol, the shop was selling the solvent/ cleaner- but were having a laugh with the price!
Save if you can, spend if you have to (Must be my Scottish ancestry coming out)

Lin · Senior Member

Check your air filter in 10 days. It'll be dry as a bone.

shack · Veteran Member

Now shall I get my coat now, but chopping a tree down this afternoon made me think about maybe chain saw chain oil?
or even the cans of that sticky chain lube we used to years in the past (and haven't used for years, but lurks in the deepest recesses of the man cave)

or

stop being tight and spend a tenner on a can that will prob last a year!

Richie Blyth · Veteran Member

Lin wrote:
Check your air filter in 10 days. It'll be dry as a bone.

So where can I get this wonderful oil and whats it called???

cheers

Lin · Senior Member

Foam air filter oil. Usually comes in a spray can but is also found in plastic bottles. Most motorcycle parts dealers should stock it.

http://www.castrolmoto.com/en/products/foam_air_oil.php

TTRfan · Super Guru

I am not keen on using petrol as I usually manage to spill it on myself so I use the Silkolene cleaner http://www.msa-direct.co.uk/silkolene-foam-air-filter-cleaner.html and their oil http://www.msa-direct.co.uk/silkolene-foam-air-filter-oil.html

They do a kit with bucket, gloves etc here http://www.msa-direct.co.uk/silkolene-foam-air-filter-kit.html if you want to buy yourself an early Xmas present wink

Brian

sdm · Newbie

Hi I am new to the forum but have been riding and wrenching on my bikes for along time. Engine oil imo can be used in a pinch if filter oil isn't available. I would however service and clean the filter more often as engine oil will evaporate and drain out of the filter alot sooner like stated above. Filter oil has a solvent carrier that helps the oil absorb into the filter more completely. It is also
stickier so it will stay in the filter longer. I have however found that different brands seem to perform better than others. I like Maxima FFT foam filter treatment as it is dust proof and water proof but I am sure most of the other brands are similar in performance. I have also used 90 wt gear oil and it seems to work ok.
Good stuff on this forum...
Sam

sammyttr · Senior Member

Hello,

Just wondering where the oil filter is placed on the later ttrs and is it easily accesable.

Cubber · Super Guru

RE: Oil Filter

truslack · Veteran Member

Nice Red Bull can Martyn :P

Cubber · Super Guru

Yup - it was when I first got the bike, that shot.

It's now got a Newky Brown cover on it.

But the oil filter cover is just the same! biggrin

Martyn

sammyttr · Senior Member

Thanks will have to change the filter and oil when ive got it, doing that can thing is it a case of cutting top and bottom off then up the side and loosen the jubilee clips and sliding it on

Cubber · Super Guru

More or less Sam.

In my case the bike was a tad mucky after my last ride bleh so I took the clips off completely, which loosened the reservoir and enabled me to shovel the mud out from behind it. biggrin

I took the liberty of putting another Brown Ale can round the reservior too.

Martyn

sammyttr · Senior Member

Looks really good with the red bull and newcastle brown ale, might do a Monster energy one.

Cubber · Super Guru

Go for it - I don't know why Yamaha didn't cover them originally with an advert or someting.

BTW - if you want a filter at competitive rates try here CLICKY

Martyn

sammyttr · Senior Member

Thanks I will see how much CMC notts charge and get some Yamaha fully synthetic oil while at,

tracker · Veteran Member

REUSABLE OIL FILTER, has anyone used them?

oshanrube · Veteran Member

i noticed that there are stainless steel filters which they claim that never needs to be replaced also it preforms better. i was wonders do they really work and also has anyone tried them? are they really good

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Reusable-Oil-Filter-YAMAHA-TTR250-WR400F-YZ400F-/180841963812?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a1b056124&vxp=mtr#ht_2668wt_1037

http://www.ebay.com/itm/REUSABLE-OIL-FILTER-YZ250F-YZ450F-TTR250-WR250F-/330695935067?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4cff03845b&vxp=mtr#ht_791wt_1037

Aidan · Senior Member

I'm running one. So much cheaper In the long run

oshanrube · Veteran Member

what is the range distance between the paper filter and this?

hertsrider · Senior Member

I am using this type of filter...how do you clean them ready for re-use?

Cubber · Super Guru

Paraffin would do, but if you're desperate you could safely dunk it in petrol - taking due precautions obviously, ie outdoors, no naked flame, rubber gloves, etc.

Martyn

TTRfan · Super Guru

A word of warning on any re-usable filter. Be ever so careful in cleaning and drying the filter. It is very easy to introduce a tear or hole in the guaze that you may not notice and therefore cancel out all the filtering qualities. Blowing the filter dry on a high pressure air line can damage the filter if you get too close.

It is for this reason that I only ever re-use an ordinary mesh filter once before discarding it. The s/s filters may be more resilient.

Brian

Rger8 · Member

Replacement Oil filter?

Cubber · Super Guru

Robert,

There are lots of offers on eBay for TTR250 oil filters. smile

I put "ttr250 oil filter" into www.ebay.com and got 61 results ranging from $6.85 to $35.49 for a Pro Filters Stainless Steel Oil Filter.

Martyn

Rger8 · Member

Martyn,

Thanks, I'll check them out! Do you know if the stock steel filter is ok to use in the long run? Not use to this type so not sure if I should go for a paper one.

Thanks, Robert

texasT · Senior Member

Robert,
WELCOME TO THE FUN!!!
I bought a aftermarket metal/steel filter for mine (not sure what the brand was) and had trouble fitting it. It was just a bit too long and the filter plate would not bolt back down all the way.
I use the OE filter and it works great. Bike Bandit has them for 12.95.
greg

Rger8 · Member

Greg, thanks for the tip a regarding bike bandit. I'll snag one! biggrin

Harleyquin · Member

Oil filter for '94 Raid

Cubber · Super Guru

Filters should be equivalent to HiFlo HF142 or Champion X313

If you live in the UK the easiest way is to order on line with TotallyTTRS and have it delivered by Royal Mail. smile

Totally TTRs will also deliver outside the UK but postage extra. aww

Martyn

Harleyquin · Member

Thanks Martyn

Unfortunately neither of these will fit because of the need for the extra holes in the frame of the filter.

Peter

TTRfan · Super Guru

That's very odd as the TTR oil filters are interchangeable throughout the range and years confuse

Any chance of some pics?

Brian

Harleyquin · Member

Problem solved - operator error!!! I went back and checked the part number with the original parts catalogue and I was using the correct filter so the problem was, obviously, me. Back to the bike, remove the filter again and check a little more carefully this time - the "prongs" I had been talking about were on the rubber end-pieces of the filter that had become stuck to the housing and end-plate. Once "unstuck" everything went smoothly and new filter is now happily installed.

Sorry for wasting everyone's time. Can't promise it won't happen again - not done much bike fettling.

Peter

andrew_younger · Newbie

Cleaning the oil filter (2012 model)

TT-R250M · Super Guru

Turps should be pretty safe but I prefer to use diesel or brake cleaner.

If you have the standard Yamaha paper filter, it needs to be chucked out. Only the wire mesh filters (re-useable type) can be cleaned.

For others- Although I have no doubt that Andrew's bike is a 2012 model, it was actually made in 2011 as this is the last year TTR250's were made. The rest will be classed as 2012 or 2013 for registration purposes but made in 2011.

Jarrah

BM Steve · Guru

TT-R250M wrote:
Turps should be pretty safe but I prefer to use diesel or brake cleaner.
Jarrah

This is a bit off subject but thought I would toss it in biggrin

Turps is good, so is Diesel, I use Kerosine or turps for just about all the cleaning, chains, engine etc...

I also use Biodiesel, I make some from time to time, it's really good for cleaning chains, won't get into the rollers and wash out the lubricant

One thing you should do is NEVER THROW OUT THE SOLVENT, put it in an airtight container after you have used it and just let it settle for a few weeks

It's as good as new after a few weeks, I turn 4 liters of turps into 40 liters that way, put a flay tray under the engine and wash around the oily bits, I use a 44gallon drum lid

then drain it into an old paint tin or something and put the lid on

Have a good Weekend

Steve