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I've been here for a few weeks but not really said hi.

I'm new to ttr's young to offroad riding but old at biking..

So I was looking for a bigger bike from my little but cheap and L plate battered xt125r.

The xt started as a very budget bike to see if I liked grean Laning.

I'm glad to say I do. 

The ttr I first bought was a OE model. a last minute perchase and is very tatty no logbook or lights. bad paint. Even anoying stuff like the side stand has been cut off. So my first thought about trying to apply for a logbook and fixing it up. Quickly turned to finding a frame that's not cut about.

Luckily it's legit and has a good engine and other usable bits. All at a price I could break it for parts and cover my costs so that's ok..

After chatting to a friend in the TRF. He reminds me he still has his early raid. With some nice aftermarket bits but a blown engine.

It's tatty and we'll used. But after a short negotiation I decide to buy it..

So here I am with 2x bikes and enough bits to build a good bike from the 2 plus spares..

Ok so the plan is this.

I like the look of the later blue model and as both bikes have dented petrol tanks I was planning on finding a seat tank and plastics from a later blue bike and fitting them.

I've sold some raid bits I don't want but I know are sought after. And I've just bought a full seat tank lights and plastics set from a wr400 that I'm planning on trying to make fit.

Reasons for me are simple. I prefer plastic tanks but can't find any late blue ttr ones for sale. And yzf and we panels etc are plentiful.

I know it won't all bolt straight on but I'm happy to mod some mounts here and there. And it's not as if I'm damaging a nice example of an early ttr.

I'm using the OE forks. OE purple wheels. Wr seat tank lights and plastics. Blue model rear shock. OE swingarm and linkage. Shorty header pipe. And motad silencer.

I will load some photos soon of the bikes and progress.

My aim is to strip to bare frame powder coat. New bearings.etc.

 

Si

 

 



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That should make an interesting hybrid! Bring on the photos...

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I hope it works as my mind picture.. I rarely leave anything STD.

Even my little xt125r is modded after trying to use it as it was and finding it terrible.

Has protect rear shock from a lotus, revalved. Xr250 forks. Big bore kit. Koso carb ported head etc etc..

Work pretty ok now.

Si

Ps will get pics up most on old phone.



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Yes photos pleasesmile

Interested if you get the wr400 tank to fit.



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ttr steve wrote:

Yes photos pleasesmile

Interested if you get the wr400 tank to fit.


 Good plan. Please let us know either way and pics please



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Ok so the wr 400 plastics and tank arrived. I thought I would buy a rear subframe and airbox too..
Stupidly I now wish I had bought the bits for a 2003 onwards bike simply because they added batteries from then so the airbox could have actually been usable too. Maybe.
Anyway. I stripped the orig plastics and sat on the wr parts..tank sits a little high but not too bad. I was tempted to use the mount brackets from the the wr subframe. But with some tweaking I started setting up a hybrid wr/ttr subframe.
Untill I found that the nearside seat tube was cracked and corroded a bit more that I would have liked for a strong repair..
When I cut it off I found it completely filled with mud. No doubt from the deep River crossings it has had in the past.. lol.
So I basically used the whole top of the wr subframe and most of the lower tubes matched to the ttr ones.
I need to lathe up a mounting slieve for the new seat tubes yet and make the off side lower tube removable then it will unbolt and I can unbolt it to fully seam weld up.
The STD airbox will work fine I just need to weld on some mounts.
The airbox from the ttr is a little wider so I may cut it down a bit so the side panels sit flatter and I can use the wr airbox side panels that tie in nicely with the side plastics.
Anyway. It seams to be getting there..
Daring Raid? Pointless modification or franken-ttr you decide.



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A few more bits done. Rear of tank was sitting a little high. So I lowered it and reshaped it.

Front mount done.

Mounts for std the airbox. And a mount to lower the side of the subframe so it's all detachable now.

Next I need to make the rear tank mount hook. And remove the subframe to fully weld and shape up the brackets. Plus strip the main frame and repair any sections ready to sandblast and paint or powder coat I'm not sure of colour yet but maybe just black.

Si



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Good work Si, glad you are handy with a weldersmile

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This is a first for the forum Si - I can't recall another owner having carried out such extensive frame modifications biggrin

Looking forward to seeing and hearing more of your progress!

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Thankyou guys..
To be honest I rarely leave anything STD lol.
I'm wanting some footpegs next and was concidering aluminium but I'm not sure how these will hold up to trail riding.
Aluminium would save some weight but I would rather fit steel ones if it's more reliable.
Also on cards is a lithium battery. And a Koso 32mm carb then I will be playing with porting on a spare head.
I've also rid my motad of rattles. I will post up a how to on this later as I know many have a rattly motad. I kept it because I don't want an anoying noisy pipe for trail riding.
Si

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Bit more done.. I decided to open out the orig carb a bit to help it flow a little more.

Need to finish the surface a little smoother untill I'm happier but will hopefully help it breathe a little better.

Around 2mm larger diameter but it's difficult as it is a strange shape I've not bothered working out it's cross sectional area. But it is more... 😋 See how it works I guess.

Frame stripped and all welding finished. Main frame. Subframe. Side stand and orig raid rear handles are at the powder coating place now.

Ordered swingarm and linkage bearing kits. Plus some Chinese footrests. Worth a shot at 13 quid the pair.

Next up is to strip forks and swingarm off my OE bike and clean up rebuild forks etc.

Need some steering bearings and fork bushes and seals next.

And decide if I use purple of gold wheels. And sell the rest.

Also collected my spare engine bits.. prob enough to rebuild one with a rebore.

Will port my spare head and tempted to regrinding the cam if I can be bothered in making a setup to do it.

 



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-- Edited by Black8driver on Friday 4th of May 2018 09:35:13 PM

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Carb now rebuilt and sonic cleaned.

Main jet set at 150 with 50 idle jet. As a starting point.

New fork seals steering bearings linkage and swingarm bearings all ordered ready for the frame to arrive back from powder coaters.

Upon stripping the forks and yokes from the OE bike I realised the steering shaft is alloy on the OE bike as opposed to steel on the raid.. so I will use that.

Any advise of fork oil weight and oil hight for the OE forks?? I'm 14.5 stone

Si



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Good work Si

You are getting there. You should have your parts today, if Royal mail do their bit.

If you use the search facility above and type in fork oil, you will find load's of discussions about oil weight etc.

Hope that helps.

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Cheers Steve parts arrived today..

I'm a complete skinflint and did loads of searching for parts at cheeper prices and glad to say you were the best plus awesome quick post thankyou.

Si



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Nice to know and thanks for the feedbacksmilesmilesmile

Looking forward to seeing the end result.

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Frame subframe and side stand back from powder coaters..

Shiney...

Si



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Forks rebuilt new bushes and seals. Neoprene covers.

New steering head bearings. Swingarm off OE cleaned with new bearings and seals.

Shock cleaved up and ready to fit. New linkage bearings to fit too..

What started as a cheap build a good one out of 2 crappy ones is snowballing...

Also chuffed with my new pegs.. 13 quid eBay Chinese stainless jobs for a yz. Bit of a ball ache to drill to 10mm they seam to be made of tungsten or something😂 but fit nice.. and look great. Nice wide platforms too..

Si



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So satisfying when it all starts going back together. Enjoy it - it'll never be that clean again!
Going to ride it down the stairs when it's built, or have you got a crane??

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Coming together nicely. ;)

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Looking good!

Did the powder coaters leave the frame number visible?



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I was worried about the frame number being covered so asked them to mask it out so I could clearcoat it but they forgot. It's faint but still readable thankfully.

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That also happened to mine! Frame number was totally obscured under thick powder coat....

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All covered here http://ttr250.activeboard.com/t63813609/powder-coating-information-preparing-frame-powder-coating-v-/  wink

Particularly http://ttr250.activeboard.com/t63813609/powder-coating-information-preparing-frame-powder-coating-v-/?a=18&commentID=58406502&commentPage=0



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More progress on the bike include new linkage and swingarm bearings.
Purple wheels in the shop to get tyres and mooses swaped over hopefully pull engine to fit in frame this weekend.
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Shock and rear wheel on side stand fitted so now it's rolling again feels like I'm getting somewhere. Had hardly any time to work on it so it's maybe an hour every week.. need to pull the engine from the other frame to clean up and paint before fitting..

Can't wait to ride it...

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looking good pal it will be worth the effort when its done

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Looking good!



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i want to chop mine now :)

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