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Greetings all,

Its been a while since I posted, thanks to all who've helped me along the way... After a year working on my restoration of a 2001 ttr250 (slowed down by military deployment) I'm getting close to completion. The bike was vet (family) owned and had less than 600 miles on it then was stored (with gas in the tank) for 12 years. I had to get a new oem fuel tank for $600, found a new carb in good shape, and cleaned her up real nice. Only thing i havent done is open up engine or rebuild rear shock (compression is in spec). I have waited to pull the oil plug until last weekend for a pre start up oil change ; seems either previous owner either used lock tight, it seized up,  or they torqued the oil plug real tight because when I pulled it, threads came pouring out with the oil. The new sump plug screws in and tightens enough to not leak, but when looking with a flashlight, you can see the threads are barely there. My question is, after putting all the time, effort, money is it worth ordering a new crank case assay ($450), or what are the chances of finding a decent used left cover?

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Any ideas/opinions would help!



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Can't forget to add a pic with the totallyttrs sticker!



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You've made a nice job of the rebuild, well done.
I use Helicoil to repair stripped threads - you drill out the old thread, tap a new thread in then fit a special hardened thread insert which locks itself into place and brings the hole back to the original size. ABSOLUTELY NO NEED to buy a new engine case.
Another alternative would be to find a larger sump plug and drill and retap the hole to suit. There are alternatives to Helicoil kits too. I seem to recall someone on here recently mentioning another system. I'll have a search...
I bet Brian (TTRFAN) would be interested in your old carb)

 

Edit: Scroll down a couple of lines in the repairs section to "...use of helicoil...cam cap bolts..." some good pics of the process from ttrfan.

 



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Mossproof,
Thank you for the tip, your advice made my day. I'm familiar with helicoil, just have never done it and wasnt sure how it would work longevity wise. After seeing the posts, I'm excited... looks like I'll be able to afford a new exhaust and bash gaurd! Thanks again for you help

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I Helicoiled a sump plug a few years back but did it with the TTR just leaning over enough to get the drill underneath. I didn't drill and/or tap the thread at 90 degrees and, whilst the Helicoil worked great, I had to use a Dowty washer to get a seal.

So try and get the TTR actually on its side so that you can get that all-important 90 degree angle for the drill and tap wink

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Thank you, Brian! I appreciate the advice. I tend to screw things up when I'm trying to be overly cautious so any tips help

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I'm assuming helicoil will crate a fair amount of metal shavings, will a few flushes with cheap oil be enough to clear out any risk for engine damage? The only other option I can think of is to take apart the engine and isolate the left crank case

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Good advice from others as usual smile If you get stuck with the crankcases I have some good used ones here https://totallyttrs.com/epages/699105d9-e4cc-4b32-b236-84e72cd67f84.sf/en_GB/?ObjectID=8938100

Way cheaper than buying new.

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If you take the right side plate off (clutch cover) there is a hole big enough to see through into the central gallery so you can see any swarf in there. May be able to pick some out with some chewing gum on a stick, then flush the rest out. When you drill, most of the swarf should come out rather than going in, and you can trap a lot on the tap by smearing it with grease.

Dowty washer is a good tip anyway whether your hole is straight or not, as they don't need to be really tight for them to seal, and the rubber makes them fairly secure from rattling loose.

Good luck, hope you're rolling soon,

Simon.

PS Time serts are the other option mentioned in the other thread - seem similar to helicoil. You pays yer money and you takes yer choice!

www.timesert.com/html/mtrcsert.html

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mossproof wrote:

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I bet Brian (TTRFAN) would be interested in your old carb)


 I certainly would be interested! Please let me know if it's for sale wink

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